Rumors necron...piccolo riassuntino xD

When!?
August / September 2011, possible GW June announcement

• Necrons become cheaper point wise.
• WBB tweaked (it wasnt like before but it stil kept the flavour of them)

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Necron maladies:
• Flayer disease (can grant fleet of foot, furious charge) interpretation FoD
• Destroyer curse (can grant fearless, feel no pain) interpretation FoD

Wargear: all interpretations FoD, save the res orb
• Crypteks Rod
• Lords Staff
• Lords Warscythe
• Veil of Darkness
• Chronometron
• Phase Shifter
• Night Shroud
• Resurrection Orb (with better version on specific lord)

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Weaponary / army abilities
• Warscythes (ignore Inv saves)
• Living metal is changing, but if anything its getting better. Kinda
• Unlike what people have been saying, not all gauss weapons are rending.
• Necron are not fearless or stubborn. interpretation FoD
• Possible SaP for some units or granted by Res Orb

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HQ

Named Lords:
• Lord - The Enfleshed - Sahtah - Flayed Ones (troops?)
• Lord - The Undying - Izarvaah – Immortals (troops?), Warriors, Wraiths interpretation FoD
• The Silent King ? interpretation FoD
• Lord - Voidbringer - Tahek - Warriors, Wraiths interpretation FoD
• Lord - Stormcaller - ? – Wraiths interpretation FoD
• Cryptec - Architect - Ankh the Herald of Dismay - Scarabs, Tomb Spyder, Tomb Stalker, Tomb Wraiths interpretation FoD

(one of them is 240 pts worth, cc specialist vs 2+)

Random Lords
• Anti psyker guy. Pariah ?
• Psyker counterpart guy. Cryptek ?

No C'tans
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Elites
• Flayed Ones (‘insane abilities’)
• Immortals - large (35mm) base; they are redesigned as larger, bulkier and more dynamic (plastic kit)
• Pariahs - overhaul into Lord retinue (second wave)

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Troops

• Warriors - no re-cut, possible additional sprue, yellow, orange, red, green rods, possible mark system. (10 per box)
• Scarab Swarms

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Fast Attack

• Destroyers - redone, new weapon options (Gauss cannons or Tesla beams interpretation FoD) (plastic kit, 1 per box)
• Wraiths (are nasty, deepstrike, 3-5 per unit.)
• New CC unit ?
• No Jump infantry

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Heavy Support
• Monolith (about same costs)
• Necromancer - Resurrection, Warscythe, Gauss smthn... (plastic kit, 1 per box)
• Tomb Spyders - 3 different builds (plastic kit, 1 per box)
• Gauss-Obliterators - long range artillery units.
• Heavy gauss cannon platform with crew (fast, skimmer) (instead of heavy destroyers).
• Pylon ? interpretation FoD

Rules
We'll Be Back was still trying to be saved, last he knew.
Will be back is redone (Feel no Pain now)
WBB is basically FNP for most guys. Not FNP exactly
Gauss Weapons are Rending
Many Psychic Powers listed as "Tech Upgrades"
Phase out is reworked
Complicated rules from the codex are getting simplified and a lot of the war gear options are vanishing

Wargear
Not all gauss weapons are rending.
Living metal is changing
The way Res orbs work has been reworked
Necrons will have their magic power guy, tech upgrades instead of psychic powers most likely

HQ
C’tan are gone, and are replaced with powerful named Necron lords and special characters.
One of the Lords makes Immortals troops
Another Special Character has some really nice anti psyker abilities
While the Ctan are themselves out of the codex their influence is still in place.
One of the lords was like 240 points or somewhere around there. He looks like he has potential to be beastly in CC though.

Troops
Warriors
Will come 10 to a box
New options and also other colors of rod (orange and red I think? Orange
is not bright orange, but sort of dark, kinda like a beer color almost)
Warriors are not changing, but doesn't preclude a new weapon/option sprue.
Otherwise look the same.

Elite
Immortals
Redone, in plastic? Unsure of the material.
Lots of "Bling"
Bigger than old ones
One of the Special Character ‘Cron lords makes them troops
Will come in boxes of 5, can be in units of up to 10.

Flayed Ones
Redone, unsure of the material.

Pariahs

Fast Attack
Wraiths

Scarab Swarms

Destroyers
-See heavy for combined rumours

New fast attack unit
Look kinda like flayed ones
They have an 18” charge with their special ability
Think jump infantry with special rules
5 per box

Heavy Support
Monolith
Remain expensive

Destroyers/Heavy Destroyers
Redone in plastic.
Like the old hybrid kits, but in plastic with fancier torso’s.
The skimmer body things don’t look much changed.
Option for a lawn mower (lown mower as in a gun that has alot of shots,
to mow throw hordes) type weapon too if you want to deal with hordes, 1
per box.

Tomb spider
Getting a remake
Will have several options and be able to fulfil a variety of roles in the army.
Spyders redone in plastic.
1 per box.

New MC/Vehicle
Can throw down some long range hurt but is still underwhelming compared to things like the Manticore 48” range
1 per box

New giant MC
Ranged or Melee options
Wraith Lord feel all around
One of the guns looks similar to the new gun the destroyer guys are getting which works well against hordes.
He has a lot of weapon options
1 per box.

New Blisters:
New metal lord on foot
Has a staff

First resin models in 40k

Warriors, now come with a squad leader 'Prime' - eh , like a sergeant,
PW (think staff of light - but A2), stat line now looks like a Boy... a
3+ boy... 80 squad 10.
Gauss. Same rules but counts as AP1 on a 6 - only on vehicle.
Phase out: will now be once a unit is reduced to 25% of its initital numbers, it phases out
WBB: basically a 4+ fnp, Str 8 wont auto kill, str 9+ does. ap1 does, ap2, 3 no effect
Flayed are troops, 2a, reduce ld to 5! also DS into cover
Wraiths, cost 4 pts more, have pw

many weapons have Nec at the start, guess who wrote the dex.

1 New vehicles, Pylon. Pylon is a AV12 turrnet which can pile plate or move 'Necrons' next to it

mon is now LR price, but better...
Destroyers now pick as a group to fire S6AP4H3 or S9AP2H1

Tomb spiders have 4 variants, 40pt base. 1variant is basically a tervi but only produces base scarabs

army is very very mobile, but not is a get in a box and move way.

So first things first. There is a lot that can and will change, but this is what I know for now:

New kits done in plastic:
Destroyers/Heavy Destroyers. This will be released as one kit with lots
of options. They look like the old hybrid kits, but in plastic with
fancier torso’s. The skimmer body things don’t look much changed,
actually. But I don’t think that’s a bad thing. With the hefty price
drop from their current points cost, expect to be buying a lot of these
to deal with your enemy termies and the like, since with the exception
of one of the Special Character Lords they are your best option for
dealing with 2+ saves, though there is an option for a lawn mower (lown
mower as in a gun that has alot of shots, to mow throw hordes) type
weapon too if you want to deal with hordes, though considering the other
weapon options you have with these guys and the number of other units
in the new codex with slaughter hordes better, its sort of a waste. You
get 1 per box.

Immortals – These look coolish…kinda. I think I liked the simpler look
of the old ones, but if you are a fan of all the “bling” that GW has
started throwing on with remakes like the BA and GK, then you will like
the new Immortals. I don’t really find that they fit with the Necron
look, but time will tell, and maybe they will look better painted. They
are also bigger. One of the Special Character ‘Cron lords makes them
troops. Will come in boxes of 5, can be in units of up to 10.

Tomb spider is getting a nice remake, haven’t seen the model yet but I
hear it looks cool. Like the Destroyers, the rumor is that this will
have several options and be able to fulfill a Varity of roles in the
army. 1 per box.

New MC/Vehicle type thing that can throw down some long range hurt but
is still underwhelming compared to things like the Manticore, and will
likely be unpopular. 48” range I believe. It looks really stupid and out
of place in the Necron force. 1 per box

New giant MC guy with either ranged or melee options. Has a very Wraith
Lord feel all around. One of the guns looks similar (maybe the same?) to
the new gun the destroyer guys are getting which works well against
hordes. He has a lot of weapon options and looks….ok. I am not a big fan
of giants though so maybe it’s me. Defiantly a MC like a wraith lord
and not a vehicle like a dreadnaught/sentinel however. I think people
will either build lists around 3 of these guys (you can’t take them in
squadrons, so they really eat up your HS slots, which honestly surprised
me since GW seems to be letting people take walkers in groups of 3 so
they can sell more) or won’t take them at all. Still in the age where
half the guardsman and space marines in the galaxy seem to run around
packing plasma or melta guns, I don’t expect these guys will be that
competitive even with their high toughness just because to kit them out
with the best weapon options makes them a bit more expensive then they
are worth, and giant models tend to attract a lot of fire power. I think
I saw something about a way to make them available in elite slots as
well as HS slots. Maybe through a special character? 1 per box.

New fast attack unit that finally gives Necron’s some non MC melee
options. Look kinda like flayed ones. They have an 18” charge with their
special ability. Think jump infantry with special rules. 5 per box


Warriors will come 10 to a box; have some new options and also other
colors of rod (orange and red I think? Orange is not bright orange, but
sort of dark, kinda like a beer color almost) Otherwise look the same.

Didn’t see a plastic lord, but didn’t hear that there wasn’t one. Still,
I can’t really say either way, though it would be nice if they put one
out I don’t really have any evidence that this is the case.

I didn’t see or hear anything about an LED kit for the Monolith. I am
not saying that something like that isn’t going to happen, but I haven’t
heard even the slightest hint of something like that happening, or seen
any evidence to suggest it other then what people post on forums like
this.




New Blisters:
There is a new metal lord on foot, has a staff. Looks really cool, but I
don’t like painting metal, so I don’t know if I will be picking him up.



Rules:
WBB is basically FNP for most guys. Not saying its FNP exactly, but
well…it pretty much comes out to being FNP. The way Res orbs work has,
obviously, been reworked as well.

Phase out is…well phased out. Not saying the rule is completely gone,
but you won’t have to buy a ton of unit X to keep your enemy from just
destroying your “Necrons” units and causing your army to get removed.

C’tan are gone, and are replaced with powerful named Necron lords and special characters.

One of the Lords makes Immortals troops, though I am not sure if they are scoring.

Another Special Character has some really nice anti psyker abilities. I
don’t think he is a lord, some other sort of Necron maybe? I don’t play
Necrons myself, but I didn’t get the impression that he was a boss
‘Cron.

Unlike what people have been saying, not all gauss weapons are rending.

Living metal is changing, but if anything its getting better. Kinda.

A lot of the weird complicated rules from the codex are getting
simplified and a lot of the war gear options are vanishing, though many
of them will be back in slightly altered form as special abilities or
items owned by some of the new special characters.

Necrons will have their magic power guy, but no he isn’t a psyker. I
mean he is LIKE a psyker, but is not actually, you know, a psyker. Even
if he plays and feels…well you know, just like a psyker.

While the Ctan are themselves out of the codex ( a good thing, since
they were way underpowered for gods) look to see their influence still
in place.

Over all Necrons are a lot cheaper across the board point wise, though
that’s to be expected (GW wants you to buy more little plastic men, and
the best way to do this is make it so it takes more of them to fill up
an army). Monoliths remain expensive though, and one of the lords was
something crazy, like 240 points or somewhere around there. He looks
like he has potential to be beastly in CC though.

I didn’t see any rules for a transport for the warriors, though I was
really hoping they would get something to bring them into the age of 5th
edition mech. I wish I could tell you they had a necrhino or nechimera
but I just didn’t see anything like that, and I didn’t hear about
anything like that either. They have been giving some interesting new
fast attack and CC options, but it looks like, at least to me, that they
still won’t be at the power level of BA/SW/GK. Still, they will get a
much needed boost from their current state, and should be a lot less
confusing to play.

I don’t have a release date, but I am expecting an October release. That’s a guess though.

13)
Necron Warriors have the same basic statline they had before except
they now have a 4+ save. Now before you go crazy, also note that their
points cost is 12 points, which is a 1/3 price drop (down from 18
points). That means you get 1/3 more Warrior models in the army for the
same amount of points...it also makes losing an entire unit due to
sweeping advance, not nearly as painful.

I know a lot of cynical people will hate this and accuse GW from simply
making the change to sell more Warrior models, and you could be right.
But personally I was always hoping they were going to make Necron
Warriors not quite as tough and dump the points cost on them, so you
could really take a ton of them...given in my mind they are supposed to
be more like a shambling horde of undead robots than some sort of small
elite force of super-warriors (but that could just be me).

So this change alone totally changes the army from out of the 'MEQ'
umbrella and makes their base statline unique in the game (which is
good, IMHO).


14) Immortals have lost their T5 (down to T4), but keep their 3+ save.
However, their points cost has dropped to 17 pts a model, which is an 11
point drop (more than 1/3 a drop from the previous cost of 28 pts)!


15) All units in the army benefit from the new WBB rule, not just the
units that were formerly classified as 'Necrons' in the current codex
(even Scarabs!). So although you're only getting a 5+ save in many
cases, you're still getting it on some of the more expensive stuff in
the army as well (and there are some pricey new units to counterbalance
the relatively cheap Warriors and Immortals). Also the vehicle that can
add models back into the unit is also able to use this ability on any
unit.


15) Rez Orb is still in the game and boosts the new WBB rule to a 4+
instead of a 5+, but only affects the unit it is in. I have a strong
suspicion that this is an upgrade that Crypteks can take (I'll confirm
if I find out), so I'd imagine you can get quite a few units in the game
getting the 4+ bonus save if you want to pay the points to take them
for your Crypteks and then split those Crypteks off to lead units.


16) Veil of Darkness is now definitely something Crypteks can take (so
you can have a bunch of 'em in the army), but it no longer allows a unit
to be pulled out of combat (and neither does the Monolith), except in
the case of the Veil carried by one of the named Lords.


17) In the new fluff it sounds like the C'Tan were mainly killed off by
the Necrons (or something like that), so the C'Tan that you field in the
game are just remaining shards of their power. They're naturally still a
really mean Monstrous Creature who rocks in combat, but you can also
purchase a bunch of different abilities. These abilities are in line
with a lot of the things we've seen in the last few codexes, things
like: messing around with Deep Striking enemy units, making enemies
moving through terrain differently, and allowing the Necron player to
change some of his deployment, etc. So it sounds like you have a lot of
different options with the C'Tan that really mess with the enemy army
and/or supplement your own. And they are not one per army (so you can
have 3 if you want to use up all your Elites on them, although it sounds
like the other Elites choices are pretty awesome as well).


18) Some of those six new vehicles include flyers (not sure how many),
which can move at cruising speed and fire all their weapons.


19) Besides a few units that are Fearless (Wraiths, Tomb Spyders and
Scarabs), the army doesn't have any sort of blanket immunity to morale.
They are still Ld10, but obviously we know that still leaves them very
vulnerable to being run down in combat, and it looks like that will
remain a big Achilles heel.


20) Scarabs sound great. They are cheap, have the new WBB rule, move
like beasts and have an ability that erodes enemy armor when they get
into combat with it. Any non-vehicle model they wound, but don't kill,
has its armor save turned to a dash (i.e. nothing) for the rest of the
game. If they hit a vehicle, on a 4+ the vehicle loses a point of armor
value on ALL facings, and if any facing is reduced to zero, then the
vehicle is destroyed (I'm not sure if this ability kicks in for each hit
they get on the vehicle, or just once no matter how many hits they
cause). There are some items in the army that also have a similar
ability to erode armor, including one of the C'Tan powers.

So it sounds like Scarabs may play a major role in most Necron armies!


21) Overall, CC is definitely still the weak point of the army, but it
looks like they've got a lot of different places they can take special
rules to slow down or screw with approaching enemy, including some of
the C'Tan powers, but also some of the different gear they can take. But
they also have some different potential counter-assault units, which
mainly come out of the Elites section (besides the new Walker, the C'Tan
and the flayed ones in Elites there are 3 OTHER brand new units in
there as well, for a grand total of 6 Elites choices). The Flayed ones
are, being consistent, cheaper than they were and now have 3 Attacks
base (but their save is now 4+ as with standard Warriors). One of the
other new Elite units is also CC oriented, but is very pricey points
wise (but is S5/T5/3+save). This unit can wield a Warscythe, but they
are not called Pariahs (no idea if that's what Pariahs have 'turned
into' or not).

Another new Elites choice is a sniper style unit that can Deep Strike
into play normally or it can choose to immediately Deep Strike
immediately after the opponent brings an enemy unit on from Reserves,
and they have some nasty additional damage ability against one nominated
unit...obviously we need more info to know how useful this will really
be, but the concept of countering an opponent's Reserve deployment
immediately sounds interesting at least.

The last new Elites choice is an Elite Jump Infantry unit with very
close range shooting and some decent CC ability (and are also
S5/T5/3+save).


22) Fast Attack has 4 choices...Wraiths, Tomb Blades (jetbikes), Scarabs & Destroyers.


And that's it! Kind of all over the place and certainly not a full
snapshot of the codex, but a lot of these things are completely opposite
from many of the other rumors I've seen out there.